the new holy crap

Alright, we're going to try to rejuvenate this thing one more fall instead of rashly pulling the plug. Welcome back. Hope everyone had a good summer! Here's the news: We are now welcoming comments from the public. The long-time contributors are still the primary dialogue-thrusters but we are ready to hear from others, should they ever wander by.

So let's remember the ground rules. This is dialogue. Dialogue means respect, humility, grace, and a united commitment to truth that relentlessly involves listening as much as it involves saying your piece. Consider this a good opportunity to learn better what it might mean to speak the truth in love! I don't know about you, but I could certainly use a bit of work with both. May God have mercy, may God bring the holy.

Looking forward to hearing from the old gang of "crappers" and new contributors alike. Welcome to the dialogue! (love, Fear)

Saturday, July 22, 2006

Welcome to Holy Crap




Welcome to Holy Crap. This blog, hosted by Jon C. and Aaron H, (AKA "fear" and "trembling") invites members to participate in theological discussion.

The purpose of this blog is to generate dialogue on issues of debate -- not necessarily to form a conclusion but to create an understanding of other viewpoints... the old "iron sharpening iron" concept. Ultimately, we want to glorify God by sweating through the tough issues and coming out the other side of the debate with a clearer understanding of how He acts in the world.

Guidelines are posted on the sidebar. Please note: this blog can be viewed by other people but only registered users may post comments. As such, be respectful of others -- members and non-members alike. Most importantly, please participate!

Special thanks to Jon for the great idea of starting this blog.

Thanks for joining us!

1 comment:

Jon Coutts said...

I would like to briefly explain the name "holy crap" since it was my brainchild, or brainfart, depending how you look at it.

1. Like it or not, the expression "holy crap" is today's "eureka!", and I hope by having good dialogue we might have some eureka moments ourselves.
2. I, and others, often use the word "crap" to refer humbly and self-deprecatingly to those ideas which we spew from our mouths. Our hope would be that God would undertake to perpetually redeem these things and make them holy. It is assumed that he intended genuine dialogue between believers to be one of the vehicles of such redemption.
3. For those who like proof texts, (and isn't that all of us?), check out Isaiah 64:6-8 which implies that "all our righteous acts (including dialogue) are like filthy rags (ie crap)" and yet the Lord is "our Father. We are the clay, and he is the potter; we are all the work of his hand." Furthermore, as Psalm 40:2 says, "He lifts us out of the mud and mire (ie crap) and gives us a firm place to stand."

So although it may be a slightly irreverent phrase at face value, no irreverence is meant. If anything it is reverence that gives us a realization of our own crappiness, and yet in our appreciation of God's grace we realize that as we seek him (working out our salvation) he redeems us. We know from experience that dialogue within community can be a key tool in God's hands for that redemption. To that end we dedicate this blog, for what its worth and however long it lasts.

So there you have it, a holy crap manifesto you might say! (Yes, I have way too much time on my hands right now.)